Hi all good to see the old faces here!
I have a few questions, they may be uncomfortable, but it would be good to get something down on paper about them..
1. Who owns the code for the web site? If the original programmer leaves, do we have the right to give the back-end/code of the web site to someone else to maintain?
2. Who is responsible for domain and hosting renewals? Obviously there is a cost involved, if one person pays this out of their own pocket every year, does this mean they can make a claim of ownership on the site?
3. Google ads at the bottom of the page, can we have someone from the admin community elected to see all financial details re. adverts on this web site. If there is a surplus of money, the community should decide whether to give that back to the developer but more importantly, should all financial business be transparent and public to commitee/senior admins/volunteers (for want of a better word)
4. If there will be member of senior admin voted in as 'treasurers', they can work with the volunteer developer to have access to numbers for monies received, a paypal donate button could be put on the site under this system, but only if it is open and transparent..
Basically, having experienced sxc and sxp, I don't think you want an individual to claim ownership on this web site, if they do, they have the right to sell it.. essentially what Peter did was he sold the code running his web sites, he can't sell the images because they belong to the users, so you guys need to make sure you put systems in place now, while things are in the early stages, so that you can totally run things yourself, including revenue and hosting costs..
In fact Lynne, I sent you an invite to create a gmail acocunt, all you would have to do, is create your gmail account, like firstname.lastname@example.org or whatever you like, and send that email to the developers with a request that the google ads be set up under that account: literally about 5 mins work..
As for asking me if I forget why RGB was created, I feel I'm the only one that remembers at the moment.
I think the reason no-one is prepared to ask the developers to use a communal login for the google ads is out of fear, in case they take the site away.. and I'm really sad if that is the situation and they have 100% control over revenue.. the longer the login is left privately under their account, the harder it is to take it back..
You should also ask for the ftp username and password and keep it on record yourselves, including making a local back-up of the web files for yourselves too..
Hilary, your reasoning is wrong. We simply haven't had the time to go into this although it has been discussed generally. We need to arrange a time when everyone is awake because of the scattered time zones and to fit in with people not being at work. We know that this matter needs to be thrashed out. Rest assured the charter and accounting for site income is on the agenda. We need to find out who is best suited to head up whatever part of the project and play on those strengths. You can't appoint someone to keep the accounts if they've never done that before. Poking us with a big pointy stick isn't going to get the job done any faster.
I sent you an invite for a gmail account, only takes a few mins to set up, and another min or two to email developers.. but fair enough.. I'll go now.
Hilary, what you sent me was an option. There may be other options. I can't make a unilateral decision on how the accounting will be done. I think your idea is a very good one. A nice simple one. It stands a good chance of being adopted. And it will be put on the table.
I need to make a retraction because I got one of my wires crossed about the server.
The server currently hosting RGB belongs to Jay who originally bought it for use in his day to day work. It is supporting the site's needs at this moment in time and will continue to do so for as long as necessary. RGB will need a dedicated server at some time in the not too distant future, paid for by raising revenue. However, the Google ads have only brought in a handful of euros so far. It might buy us a round of ice creams but little else.
If you want to help out then please spread the word by raising awareness of our existence. More people visitng and/or signing up to RGB will help to raise the money we need for the server by clicking on the ads. I'm not asking for a clicking ads campaign, just that the service is used sensibly.
I'll keep you posted on progress as it's made. Meanwhile, thank you to everyone who has signed up. For a month old fledgling stock site we ain't doing too shabbily. Not too shabby at all. :0)
I agree Cris, a facebook accout is a good idea!